The first Jeep I actually want.

"BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather" (bugeyedacura)
08/14/2013 at 21:24 • Filed to: None

DISCUSSION (23)

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/14/2013 at 21:25

BugEyeJeep?

Milky > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/14/2013 at 21:29

I've owned 2 Jeeps so its not quite the same. But damn do I like the way this looks (in trailhawk form).

Casper > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/14/2013 at 21:32

You like the predator face?

Kinja'd!!!

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager
08/14/2013 at 21:37

I approve of this change.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Milky
08/14/2013 at 21:39

I've liked pretty much every version they've shown. I would not be as crazy about a plastic-bumppered stripper version, however.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Casper
08/14/2013 at 21:40

Good Lord yes. On Jeeps and Lexus's.

Bonhomme7h > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/14/2013 at 21:55

This car definitely need a roof light bar.
You never have too much lights.

Who needs sway bars anyway > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/14/2013 at 22:11

As a long time XJ cherokee fan, This is the best picture of tue new cherokee I've seen yet. But there is still two problems, it's drivetrain is FWD based and the loaded trail hawk is $40k....

GhostZ > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/14/2013 at 22:28

Kinja'd!!!

I want this one.

....but with a Hemi swap.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Who needs sway bars anyway
08/14/2013 at 23:16

The C&D review had its upper bounds listed at $30k in the side bar. So I dunno.

And AWD is part of the future man. Like direct injection and lightweight alloys.

HammerheadFistpunch > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/14/2013 at 23:47

Price one out on the site, its $32k before tech packages.

HammerheadFistpunch > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/14/2013 at 23:51

you know I really like that article and the pictures are beautiful but not a single one of those off-road shots couldn't have been done in a crown vic. It doesn't really sell me on the idea that this is the real deal.

GRIVLET - Proud of Cobalt > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/15/2013 at 00:45

Man that thing hurts to look at.

That and ZF is having trouble getting the 8speed to work with it (sounds like a nightmare in about 5 years)

Plus, why not pony up a few more bucks and get the DIESEL Grand Cherokee? 420 ftlbs!!

I mean 420, not one more or one less.

I see what I did there.

Who needs sway bars anyway > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/15/2013 at 00:45

It's not the AWD that I have an issue with really it's the fact that its FWD based, it kind of puts a chastity belt on the off-road enthusiast when it comes to more serious modifications, but at the same time, the Cherokee is no longer marketed to the serious off road enthusiast. I probably preach this too much but it's hit me hard in the feels.

Shiftright > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/15/2013 at 03:39

Polarizing, but bold. I think this will grow on a lot of people, as it has on me. In Trailhawk form, especially, it looks like a futuristic planetary exploration vehicle.

Mosqvich > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/15/2013 at 09:59

I priced a Trailhawk out with leather and a lot of the options - $37,165.00. I'd have to drive it. I think it looks nice and anything has to be better than the Compass/Patriot/Old Cherokee in terms of, well, everything. To be honest, we're not looking at this as a possible purchase, we're waiting for the Porsche Macan to go on sale and then hopefully scoop up a used Cayenne. Our hope/assumption is that a lot of people will go for new Macans and Cayenne prices will fall.

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Year: 2010

Make: Porsche

Model: Cayenne

Trim: S

Bodystyle: SUV

Doors: 4 door

Mileage: 55,140 miles

Engine: 4.8L V-8 cyl

Transmission: Automatic

Drive Line: AWD

Fuel Type: premium unleaded

Exterior Color: Basalt Black

VIN: WP1AB2AP3ALA50069

Stock #: P2157

$41,988.00

For the Jeep here are the packages and options I chose:

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17-Inch x 7.5-Inch Aluminum WheelsP245/65R17 OWL All Terrain TiresOff-Road Suspension

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9-Speed Transmission with Jeep Active Drive IIGVW Rating - 5,500 Pounds

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Mosqvich
08/15/2013 at 12:04

Good idea/point. But it's kind of an apples to oranges comparison. Arguably, you might be able to say the same thing about the JGC after the new Cherokee hits the street.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Shiftright
08/15/2013 at 12:06

Well Jeep people don't like change. What can you really expect?

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Who needs sway bars anyway
08/15/2013 at 12:09

If you're buying a Patriot/Conpass replacement as a serious off-roader, you need to manage your expectations.

Mosqvich > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/15/2013 at 12:25

Absolutely with regard to a JGC. The question is what can you get in the price range? Does it meet your requirements? Are you willing to forgo a new-car warranty?

I think a Porsche will cost more to work on, no doubt, but not as bad as you would think. My former Focus ST (2006) cost an arm and a leg for everything. New alternator: $700. My wife and I can't remember what it was, but we had a repair that cost $2k. And then it blew up. Literally, the engine blew on it. Repair bill: $7k. I didn't bother.

So any new car can potentially cost an arm and a leg. So it's not really apples to oranges, it just different apple breeds. An orange would be comparing the Cherokee to a sports cars.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Mosqvich
08/15/2013 at 12:53

The Apples to Oranges line was not about new to old. I meant in terms of class. Size wise, the Cherokee competes with the Macan, not the Cayenne.

Who needs sway bars anyway > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather
08/15/2013 at 15:21

There is one major thing wrong with what you just said. The new Cherokee isn't intended as a replacement for the Patriot/compass, Its intended as a replacement for the Liberty, which was the replacement for the XJ Cherokee. And even the Jeep liberty was capable of being modified and upgraded for more serious 4x4ing.

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And because the drive train layout was a simple RWD, transfer case based layout even solid axle swaps are relatively simple. But now it has practically been rendered impossible due to the new FWD based layout.

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BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Who needs sway bars anyway
08/15/2013 at 19:53

Ah. That's where the disconnect comes from then. Where I'm from, and i mean this in a completely true and uninsulting way, the Patriot is almost exclusively drive by women that want something capable and "rugged" but get tricked into thinking Subies are for lesbians. :\